Episode 03: Institutional Realignment in an AI Era

Dr. Lev Gonick, Mark Patterson & Sandy MacDonald (Holland College)

Post-secondary institutions are navigating pressures that would be daunting in isolation: demographic shifts, fiscal constraints, changing immigration policy, and accelerating AI transformation. Dr. Lev Gonick and Mark Patterson are joined by Holland College President Sandy MacDonald for a frank discussion about what leadership actually requires at this moment. Drawing on ASU’s experience of leaning into disruption rather than retreating from it, the conversation explores how institutions can stop waiting for stability that may not come, and start building the partnerships, mindsets, and adaptive capacity the moment demands.